User talk:Spankart/Archive 5

Includes all of 2011.

January

Upgrade issues

One upgrade issue that not resolved is, at least User:Domino page can not be edited, discovered when I went to update her dpl script. --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   21:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I can't edit Domino's page either. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Stoner is already awear of the issue, I was just bring it to your attention in case other accounts show up like that. --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   21:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Strange: Special:Version no longer shows the Check Spambots extension (has it been removed?) but I still can't edit Domino's page. --Spankart ^(talk) 20:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

rejuve universe wiki

Yeah, its become Rejuve Universe Wikkii. With as many characters and stories as the rejuve universe has now (its not just LD, PB and RD) I talked with RogueBFL and we agreed our own wiki could be helpful. Reason the name though is spelt wikkii instead of wiki is cause thats the host its on. url is http://rejuveverse.wikkii.com cause oddly there was already a rejuve.wikkii that had something to do with skin care. Go figure. Toyloli 03:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Very cool. Rejuve Universe Wikkii is now there to inform our readers! --Spankart ^(talk) 19:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC]

February

Marquis de Sade

To Whom It May Concern at SpankArt:

We have overheard that you looking to expend the section on the Marquis de Sade. As it turns out that I and a friend have done a great deal of research on the topic and will be more than happy to share it with. Please contact with at your earlest convice. Via the wiki or skype or PM via AOTK. -Susan Bell

Hi Susan and welcome to the wiki! More contents on the Marquis de Sade and his writings would be great. Do you feel comfortable editing and creating new articles directly here in the wiki, or would you like me to help with that? I'll try to catch you on skype, but in the meantime you can best chat with me here directly in the wiki. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Redirect for Isabella Sinclaire

I would suggest changing the Isabella Sinclaire link into an automatic redirect to GwenMedia. All available info on her is already on the GwenMedia page. There isn't anything more to justify a bio write-up on a separate website. Also, although I've gotten technical do-it-yourself instructions about this in the past, not being all that webmasterly, I could not make heads or tails out of it. -- Jameslovebirch 20:09, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll try to explain again. To create a page that redirects to another page, you edit the page you want to create the redirect from (e.g. by clicking on the red link "Isabella Sinclaire") and in the contents box you enter just one line:

#redirect [[GwenMedia]]

"GwenMedia" being the target page. There must not be a space between the # character and the word 'redirect', and the target page is in double square brackets like a normal wiki link. Save the page and you're done. (I could do it now but I'll leave it to you as a practical exercise if that's okay!) --Spankart ^(talk) 21:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Helga Bode

This is a great example of some classic art collections, it really illustrates the benefit of long-term preservation of media that this wiki represents! Oh yeah so I'm not sure about the copyright information, if he doesn't know... but odds are with a lot of old art, it might be very difficult to track it down, if it was every copyrighted to begin with, so is it okay to use Kiss until information is provided to the contrary? I don't know any more than he does, unfortunately. One thing that comes to mind is using one of those image-matching web sites that looks for other versions of a picture on google image search or something along those lines (not sure how it works) and maybe other sites with pictures we don't know about might have information about them? Ty 22:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

A copyrighted work enters the public domain when its author is dead for 70 or more years. If the year of death of the author is unknown, their work becomes public domain 70 years after their youngest known work -- for example, if we know three works from 1923, 1925 and 1942, all of them are assumed to become PD on January 1st 2013. In the case of Helga Bode, her works were published in the 1920s created in the 1920s and published in the 1930s (which we believe to be true) and no younger works are known, therefore we believe her works are public domain today and can be freely used. Does this answer your question? --Spankart ^(talk) 22:32, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

March

urlencode and anchorencode

I found out the issue!
Before 1.17 {{urlencode:x y z á é}} was the default to {{urlencode:x y z á é|WIKI}} which came out as: x_y_z_%C3%A1_%C3%A9
But 1.17+ it defaults to {{urlencode:x y z á é|QUERY}} which comes out as x+y+z+%C3%A1+%C3%A9
Where as {{anchorencode:x y z á é}} comes out as x_y_z_á_é
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#URL_data --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   06:29, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic! You're great, Rogue. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe this is working properly now --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   23:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Server Costs:

Hey, I was just looking at the 'Please help' section regarding animeotk and co.

I have to ask, why are you using such an expensive server O.O <_<

I cant offer money at this time but take a look here: http://www.freewebhostingarea.com/all_plans.html

They have awesome hosting options and much cheeper than what you seam to be paying.

Their biggest deal is: BUSINESS ($7,99/month - paid yearly $95,88) free domain for life (com, net, org, biz, info, name, us, eu, cn) unlimited webspace shell access unlimited traffic unlimited domains, subdomains, emails, ftp accounts, mysql databases

Those cost inculdes all of Air sites, includes BBB, Handprints, AnimeAi, YaoiAi, DaiperedAnime, AnimeOTK, further more allow Ai to se his own server that he has physicall acess to. --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   07:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of which, do you have a contingency plan in case worse comes to worse and animeOTK goes offline? BTW, I'd be willing to contribute to the costs of maintaining this wiki if it becomes necessary to move elsewhere. Cheers, Blackshade9 00:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I have no precise contingency plan for such a scenario, but I download the wiki's database dumps regularly to my own computer (and would encourage you to do the same), and I also count on Ai and Stoner to help us move the wiki with all data, including the user table and all files, to a new host in such a scenario. Many thanks for your offer, Blackshade9. Hosting costs only for the wiki itself should be reasonably low, I believe. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:29, 28 March 2011 (BST)

It might be worth your while looking into the financial side of going solo, SA. Relaunching the wiki as an independent project might be of benefit to both sites in terms of stability and bandwidth. If you're interested in pursuing this idea further, contact me via email with a financial estimate so we can start working on a feasible "contingency plan". Cheers, Blackshade9 07:38, 29 March 2011 (BST)

Toyloli, thanks for the link but a standard commercial host is out of the question for a couple of reasons. --Spankart ^(talk) 22:05, 31 March 2011 (BST)

With all the large and small CP video producers and sellers of BDSM products out there competing for attention, I would think at least a few would pay for reasonably priced banner ads at this site. Is that at least a possibility? -- Jameslovebirch 18:40, 29 March 2011 (BST)

We did agree when we moved here, that if Ai wanted to put banner ads on the wiki, then they can be. --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   01:08, 30 March 2011 (BST)

Yes, the possibility is there and there are already banner ads on the main animeotk.com site, which probably gets a lot more hits than this wiki here. --Spankart ^(talk) 22:02, 31 March 2011 (BST)

April

Problem Of Licence

Hello !!

I submitted my pciture "A Good spanking For Sassette" without a licence and I don't know how yo add one now !

I can add it for you but I need to know which license you want. A list of possible licenses is here. --Spankart ^(talk) 22:37, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Thanks for all of this spankart. Some of this stuff tends to look like pornography as they call it and some of it looks like valuable art. For example Churchward has a lot of boyish stuff and yet one very stong painting that could probably belong in the Metropolitan or the MOMA for examples. Also I would like to talk about that painting with some other people. But I don't know what my rights are. Is that stuff copyrighted? Am I allowed to print copies of it and attach them to my discussion about it and mail it to other people? PM

All art above the threshold of creativity is legally copyrighted and nobody else may use it without a license. It doesn't matter if it's a simple line drawing or an elaborate painting, or a photo. If you don't give us a license we can not use File:Sassette's Good Spanking.jpg in our wiki. You are the artist and are free to select any license you want.

In this case however, it is true that you could get in trouble for sharing the artwork because it is fan art. Any artwork that uses other artist's original characters in a recognizable way (e.g. Mickey Mouse, the Simpsons or the Smurfs), from a legal point of view, generally infringes the original creator's copyright, and they can sue you for distributing it. But details will vary from state to state, and in any case it's your problem, not ours. Wikipedia has an article about fan art that explains a bit about the legal status in the U.S., but doesn't address French law. In some jurisdictions you can be okay as a creator of fan art if you can claim fair use. In others, you can claim the right of parody. If I were you I'd try to google to find out whether the Belgian cartoonist Peyo, or his syndicate, has a known record of suing fan artists or whether they tend to be tolerant. You could also try contacting other Smurf fan artists, perhaps in your own country, and ask advice from them. Hope this helped! Please give us the license soon, otherwise we must delete the artwork in the wiki, which would be a pity as it's such a beautiful work. --Spankart ^(talk) 18:50, 2 May 2011 (BST)

June

RE: Kogaru Diaries

Hi SA. Just wanted some advice on the Kogaru Diaries article. The discussion site has been nuked by Google, and I'm not planning to revive the project in the foreseeable future. Under the circumstances, do you think we should re-write the article, or just flush it completely? I was thinking maybe I could revise it as a "shared universe" connecting several of my faux-anime "series", but I'll leave the final decision up to you. Cheers, Blackshade9 11:08, 1 June 2011 (BST).

I'd prefer if you could re-write it as you see fit. I wouldn't like to flush it completely. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:16, 2 June 2011 (BST)

OK, will do. Cheers, GM.Blackshade9 12:35, 3 June 2011 (BST)

Changing Sakura to Almond

Dear Spankart I've talked to Almond formally Sakura of AOTK. She has expressed her wish's for her wiki entry to changed from Sakura to Almond.

Ok, done. --Spankart ^(talk) 22:28, 17 June 2011 (BST)

July

Dear SpankArt

Just thought I should let you know: our other wiki is experiencing technical problems, so you may not be able to do any editing at the moment. According to the admin, they're changing servers, and the transfer may take several days. I'll let you know when normal service resumes; until then, log in every once in a while to see what's going on. Cheers, Blackshade9 05:53, 10 July 2011 (BST)

Thanks for the info. I'm currently on a holiday vacation and I will not be able to check the wiki often or work on it until the beginning of August. --Spankart ^(talk) 00:57, 17 July 2011 (BST)

Lupus: still banned in Britain?

Currently reading Niki Flynn's memoirs. Surprised to read that it's illegal (as of 2007) to sell Lupus Pictures videos in the UK. She could only find a few bootleg copies in back-alley shops. Was curious as to why (too severe or just too foreign?). And is Lupus still banned? Are other producers (such as Mood Pictures, Pain4fem, Nu-West, et al.) also banned?

Is there some sort of Standards & Practices guidelines for proper ass beating -- that Northern Spanking and other UK companies stay within -- in order to peddle their wares at home? Or is there a general bias against foreign imports taking away market share? In short, which companies (or titles) are accepted and which ones are banned?

An interesting issue to include on the pages for various countries and companies. Also the issue of how the Internet allows one to download videos from a "banned" company's website, thus skirting the issue of censorship and other intrusive regulations. -- Jameslovebirch 18:56, 22 July 2011 (BST)

These are good questions indeed. Unfortunately I can not answer any of them offhand. I was never personally interested in spanking videos, and I have no knowledge about British laws regarding local and imported BDSM videos. Sorry I can't offer any better help. Maybe people in a British spanking forum (e.g. Bottom Lines, British Spanking, British Discipline) might know more. --Spankart ^(talk) 01:13, 23 July 2011 (BST)

Cyber vandalism

Today must be a record for vandal attacks. Around 30 cases which appear to be from one person -- and yet the IP addresses are all different. How does someone manage that -- and what is the point of these idiotic attacks? Can't imagine anyone taking the time and trouble to do all that, especially since the damage can be quickly undone and the original content restored. Is there a subculture of cyber-morons who do this to every open site they can find? I just don't get it. -- Jameslovebirch 18:02, 23 July 2011 (BST)

None of these attacks is from a person, they are all from bots. I'm not exactly sure how they do it but I imagine the bot works like a kind of virus that first installs itself on many computers (that's why the IP addresses are all different, which makes it useless to block the IPs) and then makes these edits from those computers according to a simple programmed scheme (find open wiki, find link target candidates within the wiki, make edit e.g. using a text from a phrase list with one or two characters scrambled, put random string in the comment box). The point of it? I think there is none. Some kid found it funny to program such a bot. I'm not sure why the spambot volume today was so high, but possibly it has to do with my protection of the page Talk:Spanking forum/, so I unprotected it again. --Spankart ^(talk) 20:31, 23 July 2011 (BST)

Please restore the pre-vandalized version of Spanking in mainstream films. I can't seem to find the right way to "undo" the changes without saving a hacked up version with a large chunk missing (the '30s or '40s, etc.). Thanks. -- Jameslovebirch 15:02, 27 July 2011 (BST)

Done. Quick tutorial for the future: go to the page history, find the old revision that you want to restore to (e.g. this one), then click Edit (you will see a message "Warning: You are editing an out-of-date revision of this page."), enter something like "revert" in the Summary line and press Save. --Spankart ^(talk) 00:03, 28 July 2011 (BST)

Offline

To all: I am on a vacation and travelling and until next week I have Internet access only very sporadically and very limited time online. Rogue, if you read this, please look after the spam issues. Thanks! --Spankart ^(talk) 23:58, 27 July 2011 (BST)

Ok, I found an hour time and reverted (what I hope is) all spambot vandalism from the last week. If you find any vandalized pages I have missed, please let me know. --Spankart ^(talk) 12:05, 29 July 2011 (BST)

Ack! More had slipped pass than I realized! --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   05:54, 30 July 2011 (BST)

August

Audrey Q

Something kinda confuses me, File:Kiss.jpg no longer shows up in my upload log after being deleted, but another image that got removed a couple days later on the 22nd File:AudreyMelvinOnceUponATime5Top.jpg still shows up. I'm not sure why, do files we added a long time ago that get deleted no longer show up on log function? Also I was wondering about that since it seemed relevant, was not sure why it got deleted. It showed F/m of her friend Melvin and dialogue that implied she suffered the same punishment as him. Was it too recent and maybe unexpired license? Just checked the talk page and got some conflicting information. You said there was an error and to re-upload it, which I can do, but Roguebfl added he deleted it due to lack of copyright info... but that's confusing because it says you deleted it and rogue doesn't show up in the deletion log... either way, if it could be restored, I think I wrote down what Audrey series it was from. Little Audrey & Melvin which has data here apparently ran from 62-74, not sure which issue the clip was off hand though. I'll run this by Rogue. Ty 09:26, 21 August 2011 (BST)

If I remember correctly, when I visited the wiki on 22 July 2011 there was a file description page File:AudreyMelvinOnceUponATime5Top.jpg (saying "Source by Elmyra Duff's tripod, License: Public Domain"), but no image file. So I deleted the page. Technically I could restore the image, but if the copyright has not yet expired we can't use the image in the wiki for legal reasons. We do not allow fair use images here, although other wikis do. --Spankart ^(talk) 19:37, 21 August 2011 (BST)

September

Spam protection filter

I tried to add these video links to the CP in Religious Institutions page. I could not save the changes and got a spam filter notice instead saying the site was blocked. All are from Xvideos.com. Any way to get around this?

German nun spanked (5 min.) www.xvideos.com/video697380/naughty_nun_with_her_panties_down_is_spanked_on_her_ass_by_older_german_priest

German nun whipped (5 min.) www.xvideos.com/video698905/scared_german_nun_is_spanked_and_hit_with_whip_on_her_fat_ass_by_priest

Nun whipping scene (WhippedWomen.com, 10 min.) www.xvideos.com/video445802/sister_act

-- Jameslovebirch 17:53, 5 September 2011 (BST)

I have added http://www.xvideos.com to the Spam White list, however be warned if the bots start using it, I will remove it which will make any pages with links you made unable to be edited and keep the link --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   17:58, 5 September 2011 (BST)

October

Warning labels

Does every link that goes to an external video company or actress site have to be followed by a big red "WARNING: +18" tag? This entire website has adult content of one kind or another -- plus thousands of external links. Most adult-content sites have an entry page that requires one to click on an "over 18" disclaimer button so, I don't see the need for our secondary tags. (And if our homepage had a similar portal, wouldn't that cover it for the whole site?) Where does one draw the line? Visually speaking, I find these tags rather dreadful. Are we required by law to put them in or is this some sort of just-in-case measure? -- Jameslovebirch 17:08, 7 October 2011 (BST)

It has to do with the fact that we do not consider this wiki an "adult site" -- I oppose such a label for various reasons. There are other wikis such as Wipipedia that follow the "adult" course ("This is an adult site dealing with issues of human sexuality, if you are a minor please leave now."). As a result, these wikis are 100% "adult oriented" and banning pretty much all child-related contents. For a wiki on spanking art (spanking is, first of all, a child punishment) such a choice would mean permanently closing one eye and looking only at half of the spanking art world.

It is because we're not an "adult site" that we:

• do not permit "obscene" or "pornographic" images (pick your definition -- to me, nudity, bare bottoms and spanking alone do not make an image any of this)
• do permit child spanking art (non-photographic), which most "adult sites" forbid
• permit anyone, regardless their age, to visit and to contribute in the wiki -- like Wikipedia, our model -- Wikipedia does have pages on adult topics, just as Encyclopedia Britannica has them, and neither is labeled "adult"
• have no "adults only" warning on our main page -- only the "Please note: This wiki contains non-pornographic nudity, sexuality related material and links to external adult websites."
• do permit links to external adult contents, but have the convention of putting the  Warning:  label behind every link that goes to an external site that calls themself an "adult site" (you must be 18 or older to proceed, and similarly)

We do permit deep links to pages on adult sites, which means a user will see the adult contents as soon as they click the link -- so we can't rely on an 18+ warning on the external site. I agree that the  Warning:  label can look ugly especially on articles that have many such links, such as Spanking blog. We could perhaps replace them by a single fat warning on top of the page, or at the start of the section. --Spankart ^(talk) 20:03, 7 October 2011 (BST)

Mina (model)

Please delete this page. I created it erroneously instead of Mina (actress) and could only clear it. No link exists to this page. Thanks! --Mitterndorfer 16:53, 8 October 2011 (BST)

Done. --Spankart ^(talk) 20:13, 9 October 2011 (BST)

New user spam

Noticed we just got a block of 16 suspicious looking New User Accounts that appear to be some form of computer generated spam. I don't know what this is supposed to accomplish, but maybe we should consider a new user form that requires one to key in some random letters/numbers or solve a simple math problem to prove they are human and not a spam-bot. Something to think about, anyway. -- Jameslovebirch 14:36, 9 October 2011 (BST)

We actually already have a simple math captcha (SimpleCaptcha) on our user registration page, but it's trivial for bots to pass. We'd need to enable a better captcha via the ConfirmEdit extension. The problem is that neither I nor Rogue have tech access and our hosts are difficult to reach. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:03, 9 October 2011 (BST)

Just a heads up, I have informed Stoner about the problem a few weeks ago but am still waiting for a reply. --Spankart ^(talk) 21:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

November

Heads up

I though you might like to see this, but seem like on of your image made it to Commons 8) File:Ginger_Finger_for_Figging.jpg on Wikimedia Commons and is being used on Wikipedia 8) --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   04:57, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Hehe... and it's even used on one of their spices pages (in Tamil Wikipedia), LOL! If they knew... --Spankart ^(talk) 21:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Jtesker.art image

RE: File:Spanked by aunt.jpg -- This Jtesker image is a slightly modified photograph of an underage half-naked boy (he looks to be about 11). Isn't this against the policies of this site? If not, am curious as to where the line is drawn. -- Jameslovebirch 14:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Although I believe J Tesker's statement "All characters portrayed are 18+ years of age" and take it to mean also any of his source material uses 18+ models only (it is easy to photoshop image material to make a person look younger), our image use policy says "If a person on a photo appears to be younger than 30, any user or admin may ask the uploader for proof or evidence that the person on the photo has been 18 years or older at the time when the photo was taken. If such proof or evidence can not be brought, the photo may be deleted." I think deletion was right in this case, and I also deleted two similar cases from the same uploader, who did not respond to the proof of age request since August 2011. --Spankart ^(talk) 17:06, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Server problems

Been having difficulties all day navigating and saving changes. Keep getting a "Wiki has a problem" error page or I get kicked back to the amineotk home page. This happens far too often. It's a constant problem, today is just worse than usual. Can anything be done? -- Jameslovebirch 16:07, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

You can donate money to Ai to raise money for the the SQL server --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   21:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

See also today's update Spanking Art:Donations. --Spankart ^(talk) 17:07, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

December

Christmas and spanking section

Was hoping you could give a little guidance to the detail-obsessed Herr Mitterndorfer on how much info to include, and leave out, when listing videos. He's currently hell-bent on stuffing the Christmas page with much unhelpful minutiae such as number of kilobytes, WMV format, running time, month and day, time of day -- hour, minute, and don't forget seconds (plus AM and PM, as if you needed to know) when said videos were added to a website, plus gender pairings and chapter names within a title.

None of that information is of any value and all of it makes for a confusing mass of clutter.

Here is one example:

Christmas Day (Hand-Spanking.com) - Schoolgirls! 2, 6 Episodes, "includes: […] Christmas Day Pt.1 / Christmas Day Pt.2", F/F, 62 min. - Hand-Spanking.com Clip4Sale Store, page 22 (of 29): Part #1: added Apr 12, 2008 12:29:10 AM, WMV, 81 Mb, 10 min. · Part #2: added Apr 12, 2008 12:29:18 AM, WMV, 76 Mb, 10 min. · Mina (high school student, Pt.1: spanker, Pt.2: spankee) / Mari (high school teacher, Pt.1: spankee, Pt.2: spanker).

Video lists need just the title, company, a brief synopsis (15 words or less), and a link, if available. Adding the year or the name of a notable performer is optional. For short video clips I often include the running time (rounded off the nearist minute) to distinguish it from a full-length feature. Anything beyond that is just junk that doesn't do the page any good.

- Jameslovebirch 23:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for drawing my attention to it. --Spankart ^(talk) 23:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion

I made this suggestion to James. but you might have missed it as it was in the middle of this weekend's spam attack.

It basically was when a page's Example lists of movies get too big please split it off onto it's own page. For example the list on Therapeutic spanking should be moves to either Therapeutic spanking in films or Therapeutic spanking in adult films probably including Category:Lists. With the list on Therapeutic spanking should be pruned to only the best examples being and the section lead with {{Main|<Therapeutic spanking in films>}} or {{Main|<Therapeutic spanking in adult films>}}. As we shouldn't want the example list to overwhelm in description part of the article. --  Roguebfl   talk    contribs    email   23:58, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I think that's a good suggestion. --Spankart ^(talk) 00:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC)