User talk:Spankart/Archive 2

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Image Policy[edit]

Hello. I immediately apologize for failing to attach proper sourcing data with my images. I understand that copyright violations and other legal difficulties can be hell for the lone Administrator of a small wiki. I would like to inform you now that the vast majority of my images are from Flickr, and all from the legitimate, free-use policy. The majority of the minority of the photos are taken from the Wikipedia Commons. A handful of other images have been taken from sites who specifically allow their photos to be reproduced on non-commercial websites. I believe circa 2 images were copyrighted, but their copyrights expired several years ago (I checked). Whilst searching for the images, I made certain not to upload any images that would violate intellectual property, copyright, or other laws. I recently attached the appropriate data to all images I have submitted up to this point. If you feel that that is not sufficient, feel free to delete the images from your server, although I am personally certain that that will be unnecessary. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience.

Enigma Desparatus

Thanks. No need to apologize, but we both have work to do:
  • For the source, please add the URL if the image is from Flickr, Wikimedia Commons, Wikipedia or any other website. This is the only way people can check if the image is really under the license you specified. Just writing "Source: Flickr free-use image" is not sufficient as that information can not be checked. This is no personal mistrust, just a general rule for how to correctly specify a source.
  • While you're doing this, please also add the license tags in curly brackets, as explained on image use policy. This ensures proper license information and puts the image into the correct license category.
  • Any image that is allowed to be reproduced "on non-commercial websites" is not permissible on this wiki because such a license is not compatible with the GNU free document license. This wiki is hosted on Wikia, which is not a non-commercial organization but a for-profit company. They make money with the Google ads you see on the right sidebar. Such images are "unfree" in the copyleft sense of the word and must be deleted immediately because they violate the license. Please let me know which ones. Spankart 21:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Interactive art[edit]

Are there links to the websites on the article interactive art? Thanks. Howabout 16:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

No, there are no weblinks in the article Interactive art so far. Are you looking for something in particular? There are a couple of Flash-based interactive spanking games/animations out there on the Web. See Spanking in Flash games for links to some of these. Spankart 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

RE: The KiSS Game (Gauis Marius)[edit]

Hey Spankart. I had an idea last night which I thought might be worth discussing with you. Is it possible to download files and RARs directly from this site? I was thinking we could offer the KiSS Game as a kind of free gift for newcomers. It would be like the plastic toy at the bottom of the cornflakes box; a little added incentive to visit the site and take a look 'round, if you follow my meaning. I was also thinking that if the idea works, I could do a series of games to download from here, maybe following a continuing storyline from the original image. Let me know what you think. Ciao, Blackshade9 07:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately we can't upload RAR or ZIP files here in the wiki. The list of allowed file types is: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, ico, ogg, pdf, xcf, svg. But I like your idea and actually we could also do it with a direct download link if the .RAR file is hosted elsewhere - for example, on a website of your own or on Handprints. Spankart 09:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fixed! (at last)[edit]

Hi, the problem with images from Flikr has been fixed. I'm sorry it took so long, it turned out to be a tricky one! All seems well now. Regards -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 19:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'm really relieved to see it work again. Regards, Spankart 10:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Free Giveaways[edit]

Hey Spankart, GM here. I've completed a small spanking game and posted it at my file sharing account. It can be downloaded from here:

Gomen Nasai 1

The KiSS format jigsaw puzzle is also posted at the same site, and can be downloaded from here:

Jigsaw Puzzle

Feel free to offer them as 'free prizes' if you wish. I should mention that both of them need "viewing" software to play; the Game uses Adventure Maker and the Puzzle uses Direct Kiss. Both are available online for free.

Ciao, Blackshade9 08:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC).

Nice! I added Gomen Nasai 1 to the site notice that appears on top of every page and to the "news" section on the main page. I'm very impressed about your anime knowledge. I had a problem installing Direct KiSS; probably my video card is not capable of running DirectX 8.1. Can it be viewed with other KiSS viewers as well? Spankart 14:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that it's compatible with most other viewers; sorry you couldn't install Direct KiSS. Glad you liked the game, it was just an experiment to learn the basics of the program, I'm hoping the next one will be a lot better. Keep your fingers crossed for me. Ciao, Blackshade9 03:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Cheerleader (Uniform) Article[edit]

Hi. Thanks for uploading the pics to the new article I wrote yesterday on the cheerleader for the uniform caregory. Actually, I did have a couple of pictures selected from flickr that I intended to use, but wasn't quick enough to beat you in adding them to the article. I wanted to also add a picture of an adult punishment scenario featuring a cheer uniform, but couldn't find one on a guaranteed . Ah well. Anyway, that was my first contribution and I hope to add more articles or additions if I see the need. VATodd

Thank you for writing the article, it's excellent. Hope you'll find the time to write more here in the Spanking Art wiki. BTW, Special:ImportFreeImages is the feature I used to import the pics from flickr. Spankart 22:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Shower Pic[edit]

Shower1d.jpg

Hey Spankart, Blackshade here again. Just uploaded a CG pic of a little girl in the shower; feel free to use it in the Bath article if you want (or in a 'Shower' article if one is included at some point in the future). Ciao, Blackshade9 10:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Very nice! Thanks! What a nice picture. I love the gentle pastel-faded-to-white colorization. Spankart 18:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

And I like the way they haven't sexualised it. How could anyone object to something like this? eric 04:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Pants Down article[edit]

I noticed your new article contains a link to a "skirt up" article which doesn't yet exist. Were you planning to write such an article? If so, go ahead, but if not I'll try my hand at it. Don't want to step on anyone's toes. VATodd

Went ahead and wrote the article, hope you don't mind. Feel free to edit, rewrite or add additional material as you see fit. I'll go hunting for appropriate images for it tomorrow. VATodd

That's perfectly fine. It's a wiki, no one 'owns' any article here. Good job. :-) Spankart 08:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Image liscence issue[edit]

Sorry about that. It said "free" on the pae so I thought it was OK.VATodd

That's okay. There are many degrees of freedom. Anyway I found another Yardstick pic on flickr, not as nice but free enough. Spankart 06:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Faux Biography[edit]

Hey Spankart. I've just posted a tongue-in-cheek autobiography to the Gauis Marius page. If it's OK with you, I'd really like to keep this as my official bio, as it parallels the faux histories I've written for my comics and animations. I will understand, of course, if you'd rather preserve the site's authenticity, and will delete the article if requested. Please let me know your decision when you get a chance. Ciao, Blackshade9 12:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, this wiki is an encyclopedic work and that means we present truth (i.e. what we believe to be truth) as truth and fiction as fiction. Our aim is that people will find the Spanking Art wiki a concise and reliable source of information. In the articles on your characters, e.g. Selina the Moon Girl, you clearly explained the nature of the faux history and that is good. I think faux biographies are okay in this wiki if two conditions are met: a) true biographical information, if available (from whatever sources) is not deleted but coexists with the faux one, b) like the faux histories, faux biographies should be labled as what they are. I'd suggest to use a label such as the one below (it's a template so we can comfortably change the design and text later). Would that be okay for you? Spankart 16:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah,that's fine by me. I'll add it to the article now. Thanks, for getting back to me on that. Ciao, Blackshade9 07:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Heart character: ♡[edit]

Heart character: ♡

This is U+2661, you can get in in html as (decimal) &#9825; or (hex) &#x2661;
It can also be found as ♥ (U+2665) ( (decimal) &#9829; or (hex) &#x2665;) which can be turned red with
<span style="color: red;">&#9829;</span>
--Roguebfl (talk) 02:56, 25 April 2008 (BST)
Nice! Thanks! :) Spankart 17:57, 25 April 2008 (BST)

More symbols[edit]

It's fun to see what else to find in that vicinity - who knows when one of these might come in handy!

Spankart 18:07, 25 April 2008 (BST)

Technical Problems[edit]

Hi Spankart, Gauis Marius here. I'm having trouble logging into the site (amongst other things). Is it just my computer, or is there a problem with the site? Ciao, GM.

I can sign in okay. But the wiki was unreachable just an hour ago. Please retry and let me know if the problem persists. Spankart 02:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
However I also see some things not functioning properly right now - e.g. my own edit here doesn't show, even after reloading the page. I guess Wikia is having some technical trouble, so let's wait for an hour or two and see if things will be better then. Spankart 02:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm still unable to log in under my user name. There's also an advertisement for wikia obscuring portions of every article I've visited so far (it's sitting directly over the editing box right now, making it a little difficult to type this message). I've been experiencing these glitches for several days now; do you know if anyone else has had similar problems over the past week or so? Ciao, GM.

Hm, which browser are you using? I'm using Firefox and everything seems more or less okay there for me. I just tried it on IE and I see some strange things there too (e.g. the page footer is floating in the middle of the page). The issue is related to the upgrade of MediaWiki to version 1.12 a week ago, it has already been reported - see [1]. Spankart 13:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems to be the problem, thanks for the heads up. I'll use Firefox from now on until the glitch has been rectified in IE. Ciao, Blackshade9 04:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC) .

RE: Zyrath[edit]

Zyrath; I've reposted your question to my usertalk page. Check there for answers (I'd rather not take up space on spankart's page). Ciao, Blackshade9 09:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC) .

Invititations to depants[edit]

What a wonderful surprise to find a whole wiki world devoted to something that has been an interest of mine since I as long as I can remember. I hope that I can contribute to this world, and talk about the myriad mysteries and delights that occur there. But I still like that it’s a sort of secret. Thank you SpankArt, whoever you are, for creating a bridge to this world. You left a note on my contribution at the Talk Page to Debagging (Pantsing) article. As a newbie, I don’t want to inflict a lengthy contribution on readers without consultation, so I have left the heart of what I wrote at my Talkpage. It would appreciate it if you could tell me what you think. eric 10:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. Just trust in the wiki principle and add whatever you want to add directly to the Pantsing article. If someone disagrees, they will modify it until a consensus is reached. No fear, you can't break anything by editing an article, we can always rollback. *encouraging nod* :) Spankart 22:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Potential Copyright issue[edit]

The Image:ScoutFun.png2002 you added to the boy scout article, while it was released into GFDL, the photographer has voiced these concerns over it's use here:

The potential for abuse of images, making wiki look bad, condoning child porn here is huge. Please act, Jimbo. If such use is condoned, I will no longer submit images of children to wiki. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

(see discussion)

this is related to the rash of vandalism on the page.

This isn't vandalism. You are using an image in such a way that infringes on the personality rights of the underage kids depicted. It is not within Rlevse's rights to license the photo for this kind of commercial use, notwithstanding any statements made on Wikipedia. There is no model release from the parents of these kids. --Don't taze me, bro 01:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Go read the links we have on the rights you are claim, and you will none of the right have been violated, hence the vandalism is registering and changing a page to imposed your unfounded allegations, Especails AFTER discorese on what should be done is engadged --Roguebfl (talk) 01:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Nobody is alleging anything. The GFDL isn't magic. It can't override US law. Rlevse has a contractual obligation as a leader in the Boy Scouts of America to not permit a photo he takes to be used in such a way. Use of his photo in this way constitutes tortuous interference with his obligations with the BSA. Neither the GFDL nor the policy of a single wiki can make a rabbit appear out of a hat. --Don't taze me, bro 01:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC) (User:B on Wikipedia)
I don't see a copyright issue here. Image:ScoutFun.png is a GFDL-licensed image from Wikimedia Commons and we use it according to the GFDL license. The GFDL explicitly grants anyone to use, copy, distribute and/or modify this image under the terms of the license, for any purpose whatsoever. So as I see it, the only question is: is it an infringement of someone's personality rights? I suggest Wikipedia's article as a starting point for further discussion. Spankart 19:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Name and location check[edit]

Spankart, what is your name and your city? -- Thekohser 21:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a firm rule to never share personal data on the Internet (and I wouldn't advise anyone ever to do so, except in rare cases where this is absolutely required, e.g. by law or by their job position, such as Wikia staff). Spankart 21:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
This seems hypocritical, since you are running roughshod over the privacy rights of minors who had no understanding (and certainly no consent) to the terms of the GFDL license that you're hiding behind. IRS Form 1023 02:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Prehaps you should go talk to a Lawyer or if you can't afford that read the wikipedia page on the the privace right you are claim, you you will fined we have done nothing that violates the privacy rights --Roguebfl (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry? We are using GFDL-licensed images in accordance to the GFDL. You can't publish an image under a free copyleft license such as the GFDL (which explicitly permits anyone to use it in any way they want, including modification and commercial use), and then try to revoke the license if someone is using it whose nose you don't like. Now if the use of the picture in the article Boy scout did really violate some child's personality rights, we shall remove it. But that question is still open, so please don't jump to premature conclusions. We do respect privacy rights in this wiki, in fact very much so. However we trusted that the GFDL allows us to use images from Wikimedia Commons in our wiki as well, which is under the same license. The entire point of centralized archives such as Wikimedia Commons is to make reuse of free media easier. Spankart 07:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

"Contempory images of children"[edit]

Thanks for your change to the policy, Spankart. I appreciate your quick action on this. Regards -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to ignore Spankart's and Roguebfl's willfully negligent comments above and, rather, praise what it appears that Spankart is currently doing -- removing images of personally-identifiable children (and non-consenting adults, too, I hope) from the derogatory framework that this site creates for them. By all means, have your fun with spanking and the history of spanking and spanking in artwork -- but the range of free speech and free licensing very much come to a full stop at the boundaries of derogatory and dehumanizing frameworks, violence, abuse, and crime. That's a simple policy that EVERYONE can support, I think. -- Thekohser 22:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The deletions you are seeing are the result of a new rule in our Image use policy. As always, the details of the policies can be discussed on the corresponding talk page. Spankart 22:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
SpankArt, did you really intend all along to start a Wiki on "Spanking Art" that banned all images of children less than 50 years old? If this new rule was not your idea, whose was it? This has been a Wiki "anybody can edit," but now has a rule more restrictive than a PG movie or children's television program. You are familiar with the Wikipedia Review, a clique of Wikipedia and Wikia critics? null
Well, I see that it may look like we've given in to a bunch of outside critics who don't like our open discussion of topics such as spanking art, child spanking or spanking fetishism (or who don't like wikis, Wikipedia or Wikia in general), and who just rant, troll and make ridiculous and absurd accusations. From a strictly legal point of view, the new restrictive rule was not necessary. I never ever saw a single page in this wiki on which pedophilia, violence or child abuse was condoned or encouraged. Likewise, I never ever saw a page in this wiki on which the personality rights of a child were violated - though I'm not a lawyer, and you never know how a court would decide.
Anyway, as you may know, people who did not like our wiki have appealed to Wikia to shut it down completely, and I was privately contacted by Wikia staff the next day after they had discussed the issue in the team. Our modified image use policy is a compromize that will allow us to continue the wiki. For me, the solution is acceptable because I think the contemporary child photos were not of such great importance to this wiki - they can be replaced by drawings, paintings and vintage photos. If there is a particular photo you'd like me to restore, I can pixelate the face with Photoshop. We still have 1,184 images after the deletion of 74 contemporary child photos. And of course, the wiki is still and will always be "anybody can edit". Spankart 17:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Congratulations on the reopening, SA. Just touching base to let you know I'll be around. Ciao, Blackshade9 00:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC) .

Thanks! Spankart

Hi[edit]

Congratulations! I'm glad to see you back online! I will continue to add informations about spanking literature and links to Biblio Curiosa. Thanalie 01:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm glad too. Keep up the good work, Spankart 20:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hoi[edit]

Hoi Spankart, great to see that the wiki is still alive. :-)

Please let me know you need help with the wiki's technical side...I noticed (by viewing Special:Version) that quite a few features were lost, of which include, but are not limited to extensions such as CheckUser and such. Seems that CharInsert hasn't been installed either (yet), as the box below the editing screen (MediaWiki:Edittools) shows <charinsert> tags...I'd love to help you out if you need some help, maintaning a wiki (especially after gotten used to the hosting by Wikia) might be a bit tough.

Best of luck, --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 13:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Good to see you back too. It'll be best to directly contact User:Stoner (either here or in the chat), who is in charge of the MediaWiki configuration and extensions. I already told him about the charinsert extension, but it's not very high priority as compared to some other things to do, I think. Spankart 16:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

your snowman piccy[edit]

Spankart-snowman.png
Spankart-snowman2.png

Strangely enuff, I saw this piccy on the Anime site, and wrote the following, WITHOUT (!) realizing that it was you, Spankart, who had done it. Just somehow overlooked it. Felt pretty foolish when I looked at it again. Anyway, for the record, here was my response to it at that site.

I gave this an 8, but as soon as I did, I realized it should have been a 10. This is NOT just another spanking cartoon. It could have been in Punch, and it certainly would not be out of place in the New Yorker or Harpers Bazaar, or many other high class mags. The whole concept of combining the 2 fantasy worlds of snowmen and spanking into one is a masterstroke. The first is cold and white, and the other is, as we all know, warm and red. And the idea of a bottom made of snow is just great. And everyone is invited to think about the surreal idea of what happens if you spank a bottom made of snow. It “smacks” (excuse me) of the idea that hidden fantasies can come out from “behind” (excuse me) the most unlikely surface. Seriously, you should see if you could get this one into a mainstream journal – it’s a real winner! It’s in completely good taste, and quite charming. But it also really gets your attention, doesn’t it? eric 07:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I appreciate :) It's under CC-BY-SA license, so any mainstream journal who wants to use it can do so, by the terms of the license. By the way, I was inspired by the wonderful snowmen drawings of Bill Watterson's Calvin and Hobbes. Spankart 10:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Bonnie[edit]

Do you know how to get in touch with Bonnie? She was the only one editing the Blogs page. Her work is great and I'd hate to see her leave the wiki. Anonyq2005 13:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)anonyq2005

No, I don't have her e-mail address either. But she is sure to find our new URL if she looks for us, which I hope she will do. Spankart 16:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Chat Cloaks[edit]

the web page in wikia about the chat cloaks is Wikia IRC cloaks --Roguebfl (talk) 23:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

That really sounds like a good solution for better privacy in IRC. Thanks for the link! Spankart 23:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Editing question[edit]

Heyas,

I was editing the article Arkham-insanity and wanted to add a quotation from the artist herself that I Felt was relevant. The code I used {{quotation|example|source}} seems to generate a template instead. If you check the edit of the page you'll see I made it invisible.

I also tried inserting it in a code-box but it looked rather ugly.

Just a boring example.

Could you please tell me if this is a dead function on this wikia and if you know a better one? I hope you don't mind me placing this question on the talk page - is there a better one?

Well the double winged brackets are exactly that, a template. In this case, this is a template named Template:Quotation which we do not yet have in this wiki (you probably got the code from another wiki?). There are many ways you can use to format a quotation, for example as in this article: Rosaleen Young. Spankart 01:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Seem's Rogue waved a wand of some kind and it suddenly appears to work. I appluad~
Yes, I did get the code off of another Wiki, I didn't assume they were all the same hence my question if it was a dead-function on this Wikia that needed activation. Looking at the template that has been created for it I can see that it was - but has been sorted.
Now I get back to my articles. RobM 01:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The question is do you want the dotted outline as part of the template? --Roguebfl (talk) 01:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
  • .....Yes. That'd be nice~ Is it also possible (On the source, the third part) to have everything before the comma in italics (ie: The name of the person/source) and everything after out of italics (ie: The date)? In the original I wrote on the Arkham page I used the Italics for that, but in the editing, that disappeared when the quote was made to work (I assume because more editing code can't be used inside it). Of course, thats not important and nor is thedotting, I just think it'd look cooler~! RobM 01:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
    it is simple enough, but with {{quotation|Quotation|Attribution}} would requred to be {{quotation|Quotation|Attribution|Date}} if you want a standard formatting, because I can not set formatting changes in the middle of Attribution, and with the if function currently broken (according the the talk pages I've been seeing) I'm not confident I can make Date optional. That leaves putting no formatting at all on Attribution, which would let you pass formatting code with it. but I don't like it as the point of a template is standarding the format. --Roguebfl (talk) 02:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
    Update: Appernently if you pass the date as italics, it will de-italic it. --Roguebfl (talk) 04:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The next question is do want the dotted line to be blue like the above? --Roguebfl (talk) 00:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't think the dotted line looks that good in general. I personally feel the quotation template should be more like [2] or [3]. Other nice things to have would be [4], [5], [6]. Generally I think it would be a good idea to use the same quotation templates as Wikipedia - they look good. Spankart 18:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Better? --Roguebfl (talk) 20:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, nice! Thanks :) Spankart 21:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Sections from Stories[edit]

  • I know this is a predominantly artistic Wikia, but I know a few authors that would either like to have their pages expanded with small and tasteful exerpts from their stories or have at least given permission for it to be done.

Hope would you like this done? DevantART makes provisions for authors to release a story as an image and I'm sure you've seen such a thing before but would you prefer that over an expert within a section of the article bodytext. Either with our new Quote-Box, or just in Italics~?

Up to you, if you have a preference~ RobM 01:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Small excerpts are perfectly okay, we already have such excerpts (i.e. quotes from a story) e.g. at Horsed position or Inspection. I wouldn't advise to convert text into an image, just leave it as a text quotation within a section of the article body. As to the formatting, it's up to you, but why not use the new quotation template now that we have it. Spankart 10:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)